EDUCAUSE Virtual Worlds Constituent Group Simultaneous meeting between SL and NERCOMP in Rhode Island.
Voice-to-text transcription by Mirt Tenk
Links Mentioned:
10:07] Mirt Tenk: AJ says please come in & grab a seat at the table
10:08] Mirt Tenk: AJ says this will be somewhat briefer than normal hour-long meeting
10:08] Mirt Tenk: only 45 min today
10:08] Geo Meek: and your using voice thank you
10:08] Mirt Tenk: AJ says thanks to Educause for joining us
10:08] Mirt Tenk: AJ says we do use voice b/c is simulcast
10:08] Mirt Tenk: AJ says more difficult to use voice for larger roundtable meetings
10:09] Mirt Tenk: AJ says normally have about 20 avs in SL for these meetings so easier to manage voice in SL
10:09] JeanClaude Vollmar: Doing great!
10:09] Mirt Tenk: AJ says as ppl learn to deal w/voice chat, these probs resolve selves
10:09] IM: Mirt Tenk: Margaret that's from you
10:09] Geo Meek: :-)
10:09] Margaret Michalski: I just wanted to ask how we should ask questions.
10:09] Mirt Tenk: AJ says we have no auto transcription from voice to text
10:10] JeanClaude Vollmar: I've gotta leave early for a 2:00 so my apologies in advance for that.
10:10] Geo Meek: its coming
10:10] Mirt Tenk: AJ says if we had autotranscription into local chat, he'd be more comfortable using voice chat more
10:10] Kev Juno: We can record sessions
10:10] Mirt Tenk: and Mirt would be unnecessary lol
10:10] Geo Meek: or cant hear
10:10] Mirt Tenk: AJ says some folks have hearing probs
10:10] Mirt Tenk: AJ says Mirt is always important
10:10] Geo Meek: true
10:10] Mirt Tenk feels honored
10:11] Mirt Tenk: AJ says many people would prefer to see the transcript b/c they can follow more easily
10:11] Mirt Tenk: was that your dog?
10:11] Mirt Tenk: lol
10:11] Geo Meek: life has a way of popping up
10:11] Geo Meek: :-)
10:11] Geo Meek: and sometimes its good
10:11] AJ Brooks: no - my iphone
10:11] Mirt Tenk: AJ says if you sit further away you may be unable to hear
10:11] Mirt Tenk: AJ says please have a seat at the table
10:12] Katya Anatine: I've lost sound in the past few seconds. Is it just me?
10:12] AJ Brooks: no - i'm not talking - on the phone
10:12] ProDeoPat Halostar: No. I've lost it too.
10:12] Geo Meek: voice works all the way out to the landing
10:13] AJ Brooks: 56m
10:13] Katya Anatine: :(
10:13] Geo Meek: fine looking group
10:13] Mirt Tenk: did you hear that?
10:13] ProDeoPat Halostar: I feel shunned. :)
10:13] Katya Anatine: :)
10:13] Mirt Tenk: me talking?
10:13] Mirt Tenk: we'll be transcribing into text also
10:13] Oronoque Westland: hello everyone
10:13] Geo Meek: :-)
10:13] Mirt Tenk: hi Oronoque
10:13] Turterelle Cuttita: hello everyone , I am from Switzerland
10:13] Marty Snowpaw: Hi Oronoque
10:14] Mirt Tenk: welcome Turterelle
10:14] Geo Meek: please have a sit
10:14] Mirt Tenk: AJ says apologies
10:14] Mirt Tenk: iPhone
10:14] Katya Anatine: While we're quiet ... I'm conducting a study on teaching and learning in SL. If you'd like to be an interview informant, let me know and I'll drop you the recruitment notice. :)
10:14] Geo Meek: kucky you
10:14] Geo Meek: lucky
10:15] Mirt Tenk: AJ says will wait a couple min
10:15] Geo Meek: /laxt lag now
10:15] Geo Meek: =text
10:15] Chavez Lefevre: Think I would use a cheir
10:15] Geo Meek: she has a open speaker
10:15] Chavez Lefevre: Thanx
10:15] Margaret Michalski: Forget! I am using a different headset today
10:15] Geo Meek: realy need a headset
10:16] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: new equipment nightmares
10:16] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we are using voice and MIrt is transcribing
10:16] Franchella Milena: Hi, Oronoque!
10:16] Oronoque Westland: Hello Franchella
10:16] Geo Meek: To activate voicechat. Go to EDIT... PREFERENCES... VOICECHAT... ENABLE... APPLY.
10:16] PolkaDot Pechmann: Hello everyone.
10:16] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: please make sure you can hear, IM Margaret Michalski in bright green pants for help
10:16] PolkaDot Pechmann: Sorry I'm so late, I spilled my soda.
10:16] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we need volunteer shirts
10:16] PolkaDot Pechmann: No.
10:17] PolkaDot Pechmann: On me and the seat next to me.
10:17] Geo Meek: that well make you sticky
10:17] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: waiting for folks in Providence, NJ another min
10:17] PolkaDot Pechmann: I have wet ones, I'm a mother!
10:17] PolkaDot Pechmann: RI!
10:17] PolkaDot Pechmann: :)
10:17] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: it's RI, not NJ
10:17] Chavez Lefevre: I'm new here. Is this the closing of the conference?
10:17] Mirt Tenk is just the transcriptionist!
10:17] IM: AJ Brooks: questions from where?
10:17] Oronoque Westland: not everything is in NJ AJ
10:17] Geo Meek: a wet mother now thats new
10:18] Mirt Tenk thinks Wet Ones rock!
10:18] Oronoque Westland: lol
10:18] Mirt Tenk: great for all emergencies
10:18] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: let's get going
10:18] IM: AJ Brooks: ah - ok -= great
10:18] Kev Juno: Saskatchewan isn't in New Jersey :)
10:18] Kev Juno: -40 here today
10:18] PolkaDot Pechmann: I think there are two more sessions this afternoon.
10:18] Chavez Lefevre: Neither is Norway :-)
10:18] Mirt Tenk: most things aren't in NJ, actually
10:18] Katya Anatine: lol
10:18] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: there is a LOT here
10:18] PolkaDot Pechmann: I'm in Providence RI and In World.
10:18] Katya Anatine isn't in NJ and that's all I need to know.
10:19] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: loves NJ
10:19] Oronoque Westland: nope
10:19] Shawnta Clarence: no
10:19] Margaret Michalski: you don't have the NJ accent. Everyone I know has a NJ accent.
10:19] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: more horses in NJ than KY
10:19] Geo Meek: hookers?
10:19] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we have beach, gambling, skiing
10:19] Shawnta Clarence: u do well
10:19] Oronoque Westland: crochet hookers
10:19] Mirt Tenk: we have beach AND mountains!
10:19] Robby Kowalski: that was an interesting point in the conversation to walk in!
10:19] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: welcome to all in Providence (RI!)
10:20] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: welcome to all in SL
10:20] Geo Meek: yes
10:20] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: Educause is largest tech in higher edu org
10:20] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: annual conf, plus regional conferences
10:21] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: @ annual conf, constituent leaders were asked to do constituent group meetings @ regional conferences also
10:21] Franchella Milena: have we lost voice again?
10:21] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: VW group only one which has done this consistently
10:21] PolkaDot Pechmann: I hear you.
10:21] Mirt Tenk: still transcribing
10:21] Shawnta Clarence: yes
10:21] Robby Kowalski: yup
10:21] PolkaDot Pechmann: In RI
10:21] Geo Meek: i hear you fine
10:21] ProDeoPat Halostar: I can hear.
10:21] Franchella Milena: I cannoy hear. I could hear before
10:21] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: please IM Margaret Michalski for assistance
10:21] Geo Meek: try toggling
10:21] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: will be in Chicago @ MW regional conf in a couple weeks
10:22] Kev Juno: Remember in chat you can hit the << link to list all voice users and adjust their volume individually.
10:22] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: prolly @ Australian conf also
10:22] AJ Brooks: http://www.educause.edu/groups/vw
10:22] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: that's the URL for constituent group
10:22] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: you can sign up, there is a listserve, for all VWs, not just SL
10:23] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: discussion mostly about SL b/c Linden Lab is focusing some efforts on edu mkt
10:23] Geo Meek: /o ya
10:23] Kev Juno: Any opensimulator work?
10:23] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: also Educause inworld group you're welcome to join
10:23] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: search for it or see kiosk outside amphitheater to join
10:23] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we do give pref to folks in Providence, since they paid to attend this conf today
10:23] Robby Kowalski: It's always about the money. :-)
10:24] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we'll check w/them RE their questions first, all welcome to interact w/responses
10:24] PolkaDot Pechmann: Well, we did py $150 a day. :)
10:24] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: main idea of Educause constituent groups "Are VWs going to be an important part of edu in future?"
10:25] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: had a main constituent group meeting earlier this year, took basics of what we want to look at
10:25] AJ Brooks: The EDUCAUSE Virtual Worlds group is open to anyone who is interested in the topic of virtual worlds (VWs) in Higher Education.
The purpose of this group is multi-faceted:
1) Developing best practices for effective pedagogy in VWs.
2) Discussing and exploring methodologies for research in and on VWs.
3) Exploring effective methods for assuring quality learning outcomes and assessment in VWs.
4) Investigating uses of VWs for non-academic purposes that improve the learning experience.
10:25] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: came up w/group charter
10:25] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: is reviewing the posted charter
10:25] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: assessment aspect needs a lot of attention
10:26] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: when group met, non-academic defined as library services, museums, cultural services, other things that feed into academic experience
10:26] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we were referring to a classroom experience when we were discussing that
10:26] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: would like to now go to Providence & ask for any comments or questions
10:27] Mirt Tenk: Elani Matova: does anyone here have any questions they want to ask? (She's in Providence in RL)
10:27] PolkaDot Pechmann: I'm in Providence.
10:27] Artemis Reina: Real name
10:27] Mirt Tenk: Clemson University, Clemson, SC, Teaching & Learning services & faculty training in SL
10:27] PolkaDot Pechmann: Kathleen, from Albany NY.
10:27] Margaret Michalski: Margaret, University of Illinois at Chicago, Research Information Specialist
10:28] Artemis Reina: Ball State University Indiana Instructional Technologies
10:28] Steve Appalachia: Steve Krogull, University of Wisconsin - Madison, Academic Technology
10:28] Kev Juno: Kevin Lowey - University of Saskatchewan - support various e-learning technologies (Blackboard, second life, etc.)
10:28] AJ Brooks: AJ Kelton, College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University in New Jersey - Director of Emerging Instructional Technology
10:28] Shawnta Clarence: Evalyn J. Gossett, RN, MSN, Indiana University Northwest School of Nursing, Lecturer
10:28] Profdan Netizen: Dan Holt, Lansing Community College, MI, teach composition and creative writing, online for 11 years, just beginning to explore teaching in MUVE.
10:28] Gams Gertler: Je, Brebeuf Jesuit Prep, Educational Technology Coordinator
10:28] Franchella Milena: Pat Facciponti Lafayette College, PA
10:28] Mirt Tenk: can't hear mic from Providence
10:28] Artemis Reina: can't hear from Providence
10:28] Oronoque Westland: Hunter College, City University of New York. Exploring the applications of VWs to learning in the social sciences.
10:28] Mirt Tenk: Brown?
10:28] Mirt Tenk: no
10:28] Zotarah Shepherd: I am a MA in Education (technology and psychology) student at Sonoma State University in northern California working an a curriculum project: Teaching and Learning Life-Skills in Second Life
10:28] Katya Anatine: I'm in St. Louis, professor of literacy education, currently conducting a research study on teaching/learning "new literacies" in SL.
10:28] Frans Charming: /Hi, I'm Jeroen Frans from Amsterdam, The Netherlands. And am a co founder of a Virtual World Development company, we focus maily on Non profits and Education.
10:28] Mirt Tenk: Elani can you type into chat while they talk?
10:29] Geo Meek: My name is Geo Meek I make live videos in sl and post most of my work to U-Tube, Blip.TV, Myspace
10:29] Oronoque Westland: me
10:29] Zage Farman: Frederic Emam-Zade , Director General of Fundacion Global Democracia y Desarrollo in the Dominican Republic - www.funglode.org
10:29] Mirt Tenk: four @ Providence out of nine have an av in SL
10:29] Frans Charming: we out number RL. :P
10:29] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: good percentage for size group
10:29] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: for pple w/out avs in SL, why did you come to today's meeting?
10:29] Geo Meek: i hear you
10:30] Profdan Netizen: barely hear her. Is she coming through AJ?
10:30] Artemis Reina: barely hear
10:30] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: can you repeat what they are saying, or can they come to your mic to talk?
10:31] Frans Charming: /You can make Elani louder but pressing the text clouds button, next to the talk button. In there you can se Elani's name, and make her louder.
10:31] Mirt Tenk: yes much
10:31] Kev Juno: can you turn up mik gain?
10:31] Mirt Tenk: Elani: Elaine has an av, started in SL, found it frustrating & gave up but feels it has tremendous potential
10:31] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: that is a common response
10:31] Geo Meek: most people quit because there is no heap
10:32] Geo Meek: =help
10:32] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: many ppl see possibilities but get frustrated due to tech, equipment problems, or simply b/c network unavailable (pple network)
10:32] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: were any of these the reasons for your frustration?
10:32] Mirt Tenk: she said it's due to up to speed time
10:32] Mirt Tenk: steep but short learning curve (Mirt)
10:32] Geo Meek: life is vary slow most of the time
10:32] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: a common reaction
10:33] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: companies like NMC, ISTE, Virtual Ability have put in specialized "first hour" experiences
10:33] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: when I came in, everyone came into same main orientation island
10:33] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: now changed and is horrible
10:33] Oronoque Westland: it's like Times Square
10:33] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: then other companies began providing first hour experiences which are more positive
10:34] Geo Meek: voice speeds things up if it works
10:34] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: very common experience is too hard for the benefits
10:34] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: what about from people here @ the table in SL?
10:34] Geo Meek: i do
10:34] Mirt Tenk: yes
10:34] Toi Kohime: yes
10:34] Artemis Reina: yes
10:34] Zotarah Shepherd: yes
10:34] Bevan Whitfield: yes
10:34] Frans Charming: yes
10:34] Franchella Milena: yes
10:34] Kennesaw Landar: yes
10:34] Kev Juno: assisted teachers
10:34] Zage Farman: tes
10:34] Steve Appalachia: yes
10:34] Shawnta's Free Translator: Too many HTTP requests too fast.
10:34] Turterelle Cuttita: i got good help
10:34] Profdan Netizen: scheduled to in fall.
10:34] Mirt Tenk: not academically, I teach faculty how to use SL in teaching
10:34] Geo Meek: text lag hehe
10:35] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: about half here have taught in SL
10:35] Geo Meek: if your in sl your teaching
10:35] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: when you taught, what was the biggest challenge?
10:35] Geo Meek: voice
10:35] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: in teaching?
10:35] Turterelle Cuttita: voice
10:35] Kev Juno: Helping newbie students move around
10:35] Artemis Reina: Teaching the students to move
10:35] Turterelle Cuttita: teaching Spanish
10:35] Mirt Tenk: teaching in RL vs only in world
10:35] Geo Meek: i teach people use voice
10:35] Kennesaw Landar: customizing curriculum to variable tech gear levels of students
10:36] Geo Meek: =how
10:36] Mirt Tenk: they learn faster if we DON'T meet in RL while in SL
10:36] Artemis Reina: we taught only modules in SL
10:36] Artemis Reina: Nursing program
10:36] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we got good support from our univ
10:36] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: got SL on pub lab machines
10:36] Artemis Reina: Yes we have labs as well equipped with SL in the Nursing Dept
10:36] Kennesaw Landar: cannot
10:36] Margaret Michalski: My institution declined the request
10:36] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: if students' computers won't run SL, probs requiring using SL for assignments
10:36] Profdan Netizen: We're noting requirements in schedule book for the SL section.
10:36] Margaret Michalski: yes
10:37] Mirt Tenk has SL on all pub lab machines on campus
10:37] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: a lot of people don't want to allocate the bandwidth
10:37] Kennesaw Landar: encouraging faculty to use as "parallel" option in assignments
10:37] Geo Meek: UNCG has a sim and no one uses it
10:37] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: our univ manages network resources & allocates SL into a separate channel (probably a separate port)
10:37] Kennesaw Landar: can my tech guys talk to your guys:)
10:37] Artemis Reina: Quality of service on network is a must
10:37] Kennesaw Landar: thank you
10:38] Toi Kohime: participants/students were a little afraid of the concept, and wondered about security or privacy issues
10:38] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: yes, I'll connect your tech guys w/mine
10:38] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we have good buy-in from our univ
10:38] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: someone earlier said has an island and nobody comes to it
10:38] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we started w/faculty support
10:38] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: saw potential immediately
10:38] Geo Meek: there are many unused sims
10:38] Kev Juno: We filter net traffic based on protocols. Had to work with them to enable some web conferencing systems, second life, etc. adjusted so they get full bandwidth again.
10:38] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: asked univ to do pilot, they agreed if he could get 3-4 faculty to support him for one year
10:39] Kennesaw Landar: agree
10:39] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: don't know if they're unused sims or just classrooms
10:39] Frans Charming: /exactly
10:39] Geo Meek: crack your map and have a look
10:39] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: w/our islands, you might think ours are relatively unused (except this one, b/c we have the edu community here)
10:39] Artemis Reina: We look at the sims like classrooms as well--when there are classes and events that is the use
10:39] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: it's event-oriented. There may be nothing going on on one island right now
10:40] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: another island may have an event going on and be busy
10:40] Geo Meek: yes
10:40] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: probably we would see if universities shared spaces, more concentrated use of island space
10:40] Kennesaw Landar: upswing will come when vw spaces are used for social networking by students a few years of
10:40] Artemis Reina: Do you see that within any university settings?
10:40] Steve Appalachia: how does teaching relate to creating a broader sense of community? Does that change use and function of "educational" spaces?
10:40] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: in this economy, more are sharing now
10:40] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: unlike space on actual RL campus, it's pretty cheap to keep space in SL
10:41] Geo Meek: one day a week
10:41] Geo Meek: :-)
10:41] Oronoque Westland: there are a few of us here who would volunteer to be gifted a SIM, right Zo
10:41] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: less costly to let an island sit empty a lot of time
10:41] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: when it is being used, it's being used well for that time.
10:41] Zotarah Shepherd: yes
10:41] Geo Meek: that well change
10:41] Kennesaw Landar: dollar per dollar is almost free compared to cost per dau to maintain a rl classroom
10:41] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: one day a week might not be most efficient
10:41] Isabetta Capalini: one of the problems I have encountered is that much of the teaching that I have seen
10:41] Margaret Michalski: it is a start
10:41] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: don't buy into "build it and they will come"
10:41] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: anyone in Providence have anything to ask?
10:41] Geo Meek: :-)
10:41] Mirt Tenk: yes,
10:42] Geo Meek: Hello Elann
10:42] Frans Charming nods
10:42] Mirt Tenk: Elaine: big problem I've found, much of the instruction I've noticed is lecturing w/avatars or two avs, wanted something more interactive, student-centered, interactive in nature
10:42] Kev Juno: Using the tool for what it's best for
10:42] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: good point Elaine
10:43] Mirt Tenk: SL is best used in ways not easily replicated in RL
10:43] Mirt Tenk: for edu
10:43] Isabetta Capalini: Mirk, yes I totally agree
10:43] Isabetta Capalini: so it requires new thinking altogether
10:43] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: problem w/teaching tools is that people find a new tool, want to make it fit the current course
10:43] Geo Meek: i do a video of lectures for The London School of Journalism and post to U-Tube
10:43] Kev Juno: I am interested in things like simulated environments, like PADI diving sim that actually simulates diving equipment realistically.
10:44] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: when we made our first main island, I divided it inhalf
10:44] Mirt Tenk: left one half blank for faculty members
10:44] Mirt Tenk: built up the other half
10:44] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: got ppl to come in & grow on their own
10:44] Artemis Reina: We used SL for interviewing avatars with a specific health history for our nursing students. For standardized patient interviews for nutritional health assessments. It was very effective.
10:44] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: originally refused to build anything like a classroom or university in RL
10:44] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: first endeavor was Edgar Allen Poe house
10:45] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: designed to look like House of Usher
10:45] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: instructors could send students to class any time
10:45] Frans Charming: / :)
10:45] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: could see heart beating beneath the floor, raven, etc,
10:45] Kennesaw Landar: yes Kennesaw State requested some replica builds and not only do faculty want all the same tools as rl they expect it to be a complete replica . . . replica may be good for recruitment presentation but it actually is a barrier
10:45] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: determine goal, try to accomplish w/different tools
10:46] Zotarah Shepherd: Interactive instructional builds and collaborative building is a great way to teach in SL.
10:46] IM: Shawnta Clarence: Good idea i will ask him
10:47] Mirt Tenk: Brandon Hancock: use of SL for experiences not easy in RL, serves as a fundraiser for performing arts org
10:47] Mirt Tenk: use SL to recreate the performing arts center
10:47] Mirt Tenk: provide someone ability to walk around in a simulated space
10:47] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: there are several architecture firms w/closed islands which build 3D replicas of planned constructions
10:48] Kev Juno: Advanced simulations like that are great, exactly what we need, but it also requires technical staff to assist faculty in setting it up.
10:48] Frans Charming nods
10:48] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: about a build we're doing, our middle school library project is relevant
10:48] Oronoque Westland: wonderful performances
10:48] Bevan Whitfield: http://slshakespeare.com/
10:48] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: they've recreated the Globe theater & have avs which perform Shakespeare AND non-Shakespeare works there
10:49] Kennesaw Landar: yes the proportions need to be put thru a formula to adjust the build
10:49] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: most avs would be about 7 feet tall in SL (Except MIrt Tenk)
10:49] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: b/c of this you need wider & taller hallways
10:50] Frans Charming: /and above the head.
10:50] Mirt Tenk: you can adjust the camera angle however
10:50] PolkaDot Pechmann: It is an odd feeling.
10:51] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: working on a language facility, thought about creating the facility here in SL
10:51] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: project didn't get funded
10:51] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: univ didn't want to fund it
10:51] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: hard to justify in this economy
10:51] Artemis Reina: we have built a health education building and perform interviews with avatars in an exam room with all the appropriate medical equipment
10:51] Oronoque Westland: "The Tech Virtual is a collaborative design platform for developing museum exhibits. The best of these get installed in the Virtual Test Zone gallery
at the Tech Museum of Innovation in San José, California."
10:51] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: teacher in college of edu teaching library & media services
10:51] Kennesaw Landar: perspective CAN be solved if you use an actual formula to translate the rl plans.
10:52] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: built a typical middle school library in SL
10:52] Margaret Michalski: The dorms are nice!
10:52] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: put them into folders and gave teacher the folders so she can give these to her students in SL
10:52] Kennesaw Landar: excellent idea AJ:)
10:52] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: students in her class will have to design the layout of a library in SL as a course assignment
10:52] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: credit for the idea goes to the faculty member
10:53] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: try to show them the potential, then suggest ideas based on capabiliteis in SL & our knowledge of SL
10:53] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: ppl in edu are pretty smart in general
10:53] Profdan Netizen: I'm all for innovative educational uses of SL, or other MUVEs, but I also see value in using MUVEs to create an immersive online environments forsimpler educational uses, such as discussion, presentation, sharing of work--much better than 2D LMS, esp if you can use in world use of 2D web.
10:53] Geo Meek: schools have much to learn
10:54] Geo Meek: talk
10:54] AJ Brooks: MIrt - as far as building a model, great idea
10:54] AJ Brooks: mirt - be aware - if you are going to build a model, don't ahve to build the whole thing to scale
10:54] AJ Brooks: mirt - can build components, etc....
10:55] AJ Brooks: mirt - also need to be aware of, most won't learn to use SL to experience the model
10:55] AJ Brooks: mirt - be prepared to do the demo yourself
10:55] Geo Meek: the problam with people is having them on the same page
10:55] Frans Charming: /also make a video, just incase.
10:55] Kennesaw Landar: excellent machinimists here can make great presentations for you also
10:55] Geo Meek: :-)
10:56] Geo Meek: /thank you Frans
10:56] Mirt Tenk: Andrew Ross @ Brown University: used to teach in Moos in 1990's
10:56] Mirt Tenk: students recreated a suburb of Paris
10:56] Mirt Tenk: audio breaking up
10:56] Mirt Tenk: language was sufficient to create the environment
10:56] Mirt Tenk: now talking about students dealing w/prims, learning to construct, or deal w/what's already there
10:57] Mirt Tenk: I wouldn't turn a group of students loose in SL to build w/pr;ims
10:57] Geo Meek: thy dont have to build
10:57] Mirt Tenk: it is not what I want them to be concentrating on as a language instructor
10:57] IM: Shawnta Clarence: sorry
10:57] Kennesaw Landar: could be both
10:57] Mirt Tenk: are you creating students capable of work in SL but not learning the material?
10:58] Geo Meek: mombojumbo
10:58] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: in graduate class, Middle School project--students aren't creating the materials for the library
10:58] Geo Meek: teach them to use the interface
10:58] Kennesaw Landar: just as in rl computer lab = analogy
10:58] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: trained them to use their inventory & how to use stuff in their inventory
10:58] Margaret Michalski: how about opening doors etc.
10:58] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: each indiv course will differ depending on pedagogical application
10:59] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: we're building a language learning facility here, but students will operate w/in the environment
10:59] Kennesaw Landar: opening doors = opening files
10:59] Geo Meek: Language Lab is doing that now
10:59] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: more questions from Providence?
10:59] Kennesaw Landar: there are basic skill sin virtual worlds that all studnets will learn as they learn operating sus of tech gear
10:59] Geo Meek: what is life?
11:00] Geo Meek: :-) Thank you
11:00] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: our time is up, folks in RL will have to leave b/c another group needs their room
11:00] Kennesaw Landar: thank YOU Mirt great transcribing:)
11:00] Franchella Milena: Thanks for joining us!
11:00] Mirt Tenk: Elani said thanks to all for coming
11:00] Kennesaw Landar: yes:)
11:00] Mirt Tenk: lol
11:00] Kev Juno: .-'`'-. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE .-'`'-.
11:00] Margaret Michalski: Thanks Mirt
11:00] Frans Charming applauds
11:00] Shawnta Clarence: Mirt - you are wonderful
11:00] PolkaDot Pechmann: Thank you everyone!'
11:00] Shawnta Clarence: Thank you everyone
11:00] Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Mirt
11:00] Oronoque Westland: great seeing everyone
11:00] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: you are all welcome to stay if you like. Someone is welcome to take over leading the conversation
11:01] Mirt Tenk: I have one
11:01] Margaret Michalski: I need to leave so but I can send what I have
11:01] Mirt Tenk: I will have to leave soon also
11:01] Margaret Michalski: No Problem
11:01] Kennesaw Landar: if anyone is interested Kennesaw State University has several wahy Gwenette calls Replica Transitional builds that represent their rl commons area and main builds ask for a landmark card in IM if you are interested in seeing
11:01] Shawnta Clarence: thank you
11:01] Kennesaw Landar: we are all so cute:)
11:01] PolkaDot Pechmann: Good afternoon everyone!
11:01] Profdan Netizen: Bye, AJ.
11:01] Geo Meek: you shoud start a video group
11:01] Margaret Michalski: Thanks AJ!
11:01] Geo Meek: :-)
11:02] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: nice to have all of you
11:02] Toi Kohime: :)))
11:02] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: on March 23 we'll be in Chicago for MW regional conference
11:02] Bevan Whitfield: Thank you and good afternoon everyone.
11:02] Margaret Michalski: I will be here. I can not afford the actual conference
11:02] Frans Charming: Take care AJ
11:02] Mirt Tenk: AJ Brooks: take care everyone
11:02] IM: AJ Brooks: TY!!!!!!
11:02] Shawnta Clarence: Wow that was great
11:02] Shawnta Clarence: thank you
11:02] Shawnta Clarence: hope to see all of you again soon